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The Biggest Document Management Trends for 2023

Chad Brown
Chad Brown
Founder, Orangedox

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In this NachoTuesday, Andy Karuza interviews Chad Brown, Founder at Orangedox. In this interview, they covered document management and security trends in 2023. They also discussed the type of documents and contracts every early startup Founder should understand and how to structure win-win agreements to power your company's growth.

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Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to another NachoTuesday. I'm Andy Karuza with NachoNacho, the best place to buy SaaS. A big reason for this is that we offer some of the best software products available. Today, I have Chad from Orangedox with me. Chad will discuss some of the biggest document management trends of 2023, introduce us to his product, and explain what makes it unique.

Chad, could you give us a brief introduction to your product and a quick one-minute elevator pitch?

Sure! Orangedox is a secure document sharing platform. We also provide virtual data rooms, specifically integrated with Google Workspace.

How did you get to where you are in your career? What inspired you to start a document management company?

It’s an interesting story. We initially started with a concept similar to Snapchat for business documents in 2014. We pitched the idea of having documents disappear after a set period. While this generated some interest, we found that offering tracking features, such as who viewed the documents and for how long, garnered much more interest. This led us to develop a document tracking platform. Eventually, I decided to pivot and focus on secure document protection, especially after my co-founder left.

Often, features that work well in consumer applications can also be valuable in business contexts. For example, the "who viewed your photo" feature on Snapchat has become quite popular.

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Indeed, it’s a marathon rather than a sprint. You pick up features and ideas along the way to refine the final product. I’d love to hear more about the features of Orangedox and what people should know.

One of our major features is document tracking. We offer in-depth tracking when sharing documents with clients and customers. Our platform also emphasizes document security. For instance, if you share a document with a team, you can ensure that only they can view it and cannot forward it to others. This is especially useful for fundraising, where you need to share confidential financials and company information securely. Our virtual data room provides the security needed for these sensitive documents.

Why should companies care about this beyond just protecting their pitch decks? Are there any specific cases where a platform like yours could have prevented problems?

One common use case is as a virtual data room for fundraising and due diligence. This applies not only to startups but also to various investment rounds within venture capital or private equity firms. Another important use case is for training materials. Companies often sell educational content and need to prevent it from being disseminated freely, which could lead to revenue loss.

Do you have many clients in the creator economy space, or do you find that venture capitalists and sales teams use your product more?

We are more focused on the business side, particularly with venture capitalists, private equity, and finance. Although we initially pursued the creator space, we found that many creators prefer free solutions rather than paid options. Currently, we see more demand from businesses needing to securely share and track training materials.

What tips do you have for securing documents? Are there specific types of information that should be kept secure, such as pitch decks or financials?

Any time you share information externally, it’s important to secure it. Key documents like financials, patent information, and proprietary details should be protected. For instance, sharing an Excel spreadsheet detailing your product’s mechanics or a patent can be risky. Ensuring these documents are secure is crucial to avoid potential issues.

Have you had experience with patents for your work, or is this something you’ve learned about along the way?

I’ve learned about patents the hard way. A cousin of mine, who works with the University of Southern Carolina’s entrepreneurship program, has extensive knowledge about patents. Securing patents is challenging, especially with today’s technology and the prevalence of open-source solutions. Patenting specific processes, especially in software, can be difficult.

Many founders worry about sharing their ideas and prefer to stay in "stealth mode." What are your thoughts on this approach?

I’ve seen many startups go through this. From my experience starting in 2012, staying in stealth mode often means you’re not gaining traction. I believe in openly discussing our work because it helps us stand out. If a founder is overly concerned about secrecy, it may indicate a lack of confidence or competitive edge. Sharing ideas can often lead to valuable feedback and opportunities.

That’s a great point. Confidence plays a significant role, and being open can help you advance. I used to be like that when I first started, but now I see the benefits of sharing and learning from others. The idea is that while having a great idea is important, the real value lies in execution. Anyone can have an idea, but bringing it to life and building the company brick by brick is what sets successful ventures apart.

Over the years, I've learned many lessons as an entrepreneur. One significant experience with Orangedox was initially being too broad. We started as a document tracking platform for anyone, but without a specific niche, we struggled. We were advised to focus on a niche, but we resisted. Eventually, we realized the need for specialization and pivoted accordingly. This shift from a general document tracking platform to one focusing on secure document protection was a major turning point. It led to significant growth and improved revenue as we aligned better with our customers' needs and integrated seamlessly with existing tools like Google Workspace.

Many virtual data room tools are outdated, requiring users to upload files and manage them separately, which often results in duplicated efforts and missed updates. Our solution avoids these issues by offering a more integrated approach, working directly within Google services like Gmail and Google Drive, eliminating unnecessary steps. Unlike some older solutions that still charge by megabyte, which seems outdated, our pricing is straightforward and affordable, making it accessible for companies looking to save money.

It's often the case that businesses believe their product should cater to everyone. However, focusing on a niche market can lead to more significant opportunities. Pivoting is sometimes seen negatively, but it doesn't always mean a complete overhaul. Often, small adjustments—like adding a crucial feature or improving integrations—can make a big difference. Many give up before finding the right product-market fit, but experimenting with various factors can lead to success.

Pivoting should not be seen as a failure but as a necessary evolution. If you don't continually adapt your product, you risk becoming obsolete. It’s essential to keep evolving to avoid becoming the "old dinosaur" in the industry.

Looking ahead, document sharing and the industry at large are likely to see increased integration with AI. AI could help with tasks like summarizing documents and understanding data within virtual data rooms. However, the core expectation remains that documents are securely stored, and the focus will shift to how they are disseminated securely and integrated with existing tools like Google Drive, Dropbox, or Box.

Currently, our product primarily serves small and medium-sized businesses (SMBs), but we are seeing growing interest from larger enterprises. Our flexible plans accommodate both smaller businesses and larger teams, reflecting our expanding reach.

For other SaaS founders, a crucial tip is to define the kind of company you want to build from the start. Initially, I spent a year seeking funding, which didn’t lead to the desired outcome because the market fit wasn’t right. I learned that I’m more suited to building a company from the ground up, focusing on profitability and gradual growth rather than seeking large-scale funding.

Understanding your personal preferences and lifestyle goals is vital. Some founders thrive with venture capital, while others prefer bootstrapping. Each approach has its own set of challenges and rewards. Raising money is not necessarily a marker of success; it comes with its own liabilities and continuous demands. Bootstrapping allows for more control and a better understanding of your product and customers, though it may involve slower growth. When your customers love your product, it's easier to find more people like them, making it simpler to sell. We've experienced consistent growth with the help of Donny, our head of marketing. Our pipeline is steady, and while the growth isn't exponential, it's a steady, linear increase that has helped us grow the company slowly and sustainably.

Many businesses face the challenge of overexpanding too quickly. I've seen companies hire dozens of people and then struggle to manage the rapid growth, leading to failure. In the past, entrepreneurs would waste money on extravagant office spaces and unnecessary expenses. Today, such practices are less common, but overspending on ineffective ads remains a problem.

We’ve been cautious with our spending and have avoided paid advertising beyond some initial testing. This careful approach has ensured we get a good return on investment rather than wasting money on ineffective strategies. It's easier to grow when you know your customers love your product and can reach out to find more similar customers. Growth doesn’t happen overnight; it involves building the business one customer at a time. Eventually, word-of-mouth referrals can lead to significant growth, but this relies on having a solid foundation.

Our success has been the result of perseverance. I’ve been working on this company since 2015, with a break in 2017, and only in the past year or two have we seen significant growth. It's a testament to the fact that success doesn’t come instantly. Many of my friends who have exited their startups and retired make me reflect on my journey, but staying in the trenches and persevering is crucial.

I’ve always been an entrepreneur since high school, with just one job before starting my own ventures. I worked as a consultant in business intelligence from 2004 and then, in 2012, decided to build a product. After several ideas that didn't succeed, I found success with Orangedox. This journey has been about learning and evolving.

In high school, I worked at a restaurant, which was a good experience but ultimately repetitive. My interest shifted to technology, where problem-solving and new challenges kept me engaged. Building products and solving problems are what I enjoy, as they provide continuous learning and growth.

One of our earlier products, The Color, was a different type of product aimed at creators. Within a year, it attracted about 200,000 users. Although it doesn’t generate as much revenue as Orangedox, it’s been exciting to build something that reaches a large audience. My experience with both B2B and B2C markets has taught me valuable lessons. B2B marketing often focuses on selling to individuals, and integrating insights from B2C strategies can enhance B2B product development.

For example, the marketing strategies we developed for The Color informed our approach for Orangedox. We applied what worked well in consumer marketing to our B2B efforts. This included targeting decision-makers directly, which is more straightforward in smaller businesses.

Building a business brick by brick, especially in B2B, often leads to more sustainable growth compared to mass marketing approaches. Social media apps and other mass-market products face challenges with monetization, but having a paid product with direct revenue is advantageous.

Between B2C and B2B, both have their rewards. B2B products sustain my business, while B2C products provide creative satisfaction. I have fond memories of B2C ventures, even if monetization was challenging. Launching projects with friends, regardless of their outcome, can lead to valuable learning experiences and lasting relationships.

It's been a rewarding journey being part of the startup ecosystem, reconnecting with people and witnessing their career successes. The experience has been invaluable, and I continue to find inspiration and motivation in these connections. Success in entrepreneurship requires perseverance. When everyone around you fails and returns to their old jobs, it can be tempting to consider giving up. However, seeing others succeed can inspire you to keep going. I've witnessed people go from struggling to achieving significant success, and it’s motivating to see their hard work pay off. Often, people don't realize the years of effort behind what seems like an overnight success. It's all about the preparation meeting the right opportunity.

In terms of resources for entrepreneurs, I don’t read many business books anymore. Initially, I read numerous books on entrepreneurship, but over time, I found it more valuable to focus directly on growing my company and serving my customers. One book that stands out, though, is Hatching Twitter. It offers a humorous look at the startup world and reminds you that many entrepreneurs face similar challenges. It’s reassuring to know that these issues are part of the journey, not personal failures.

Being an entrepreneur can be emotionally taxing because your business often feels like an extension of yourself. Learning to view it as a tool rather than a personal reflection can help manage the ups and downs of startup life. The key is to enjoy the process. If you're no longer having fun, it might be time to reevaluate your approach.

Looking ahead, our focus at Orangedox is on our strong integration with Google Workspace. We offer seamless syncing with Google Workspace, eliminating the need for users to upload files to different places. This integration is a major selling point for us, as it avoids duplicating efforts and makes the workflow smoother. Many users choose our platform specifically because of this feature, and we plan to continue focusing on this strength.

If you're interested in checking out Orangedox, please visit the B2B SaaS Marketplace on NachoNacho. It’s a great place to explore SaaS products. Chad, I appreciate you coming on today and sharing your insights. It’s been great discussing the entrepreneurial journey and hearing your stories. Success often feels just around the corner with perseverance, and I believe our audience will find your experiences inspiring. Thanks again, Chad!

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